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Andy P.

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To my knowledge this person has no affiliation with Scalextric or Hornby and is a completely independent reviewer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLKTGq_dzKg

 

Andy P.

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MMMmmmmm Miura.... Cool

Andy P.

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Thanks fo ryour thoughts.

Most of those Carrera pieces come at the price of no longer being analog compatibility if I understand correctly.

I never understood why they have so many straight lane changes except that it does force you to drive in a more tactical manner because you could get "stuck" in one lane.

You could of course disable half of a straight lane change (XLC) for the same effect but you may have trouble getting people to realize the flippers are disabled.

I wondered about the straight analog lane crossovers when I got back into slot cars a while ago. Nearly all track manufacturers have them in straights. Then I "twigged": Like so many things in the Scalextric catalog they realized that have a switch in the straight was pretty much a guarantee for massive crashes. By putting it in a curve where you have to slow down anyway you reduce that risk. That is part of the reasoning why the old straight lane chicane requires 3 whole straights to complete: You need to give people a chance to slow down. Also the person racing from outside to in is actually on the "racing line" and it looks more realistic.

All manufacturers that heavily support clubs (mostly of Spanish persuasion) have curved analog lane crossovers. Even the Germans have that in their Go line.

Apart from the lack of analog compatibility I vaguely remember there being other reasons why the curves lane changers (CLC) won't be back (apart from the cost) any time soon.  The brain is night firing on all cylinders but there was a good reason for it.

The narrow (chicanes) will never work with ARC PRO as it needs to keep the lanes seperate for analog compatibility. Making a "digital only" version of ARC PRO though would be cost prohibitive.

You could get darn close though with the C8222 adapters and the classic straight lane and R2 curve chicanes. The Spanish facsimile is sometimes .2 mm deeper than the Hornby Classic original but still shallower than Sport. I have sometimes dreamt of just cutting the Classic track along the slot and gluing or affixing the track to thin wood or stable plastic to get the guide depth.

To be honest though, I have not met many racers who like the cars getting that close. This is again what I be bold enough to say the modern Sport "squeeze" track is genius in that the cars get close enough to touch but not so close as to cause horrific crashes. Narrower cars can even go through side by side but the visual appeal is them getting close.

Personally I would like an R2 or even R3 version of the "squeeze/hairpin" R1.

At the end of the day the major inhibitor is cost. With Scalextric finally seeing some light we have to give them some time. The old adage is still true today: Good, Fast, Cheap: You can only have 2. If we want good pieces at a good price we will have to wait.

Without going to far down the politics rabbit hole with a a "no-deal" Brexit a real possibility any major investment or export is going to have to wait until the 51.89% get what they asked for. We all want them to be successful nonetheless.

As far as lack of different digital lane changers causing a lack of appeal: I would like to see hard evidence to prove that. I would argue most clubs are analog or analog plus digital. Very few are digital only (based on the lists of Clubs at SlotForum which is of course not exhaustive)

Digital racing is very different from analog and in many cases few people do both (I do both, but all very, very, poorly: My motto "Someone has to be last!") when you add in simulations and pitting I think having only XLCs is sufficient.

As you say yourself: If you want something more challenging there is a community to support you.

Andy P.

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You can tell by looking at the plugs on the controller:

If thes look like a "stereo" head jack with 2 black rings they have brakes.

If they look lie "mono" wih one black ring they don't have brakes.

Andy P.

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Holding the lane change button while crossing the finish line will cause laps to not be counted.

The guide blades must be black also for the IR sensors to see the car.

Make sure lap counting works in analog mode before trying it in digital mode.

Andy P.

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can I use the same piece of track to do this?

I am still not entirely sure which piece of track you mean to be honest. I seem to remember a user posting something about a 78 mm straight piece that he created a dead spot on to ensure mutual exclusivity of the two lanes.

In general, as long as the lanes stay separate how you go about doing it is completely up to you.

Regarding where to put the jump cables: The ideal solution is to run from as near the powerbase to the farthest point away from the power base using as thick of wire as possible.

How wire is gauged is different in different countries but anything with a core 2 mm in diameter or higher would be much more than sufficient.

The female plugs are readily available online.

Andy P.

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Scalextric has some Good ideas and Products but they don't tell us that these won't work on the next Generation Power-Bases!

I think it has been dutifully communicated in multiple places about what is required should one want to use old, discontinued products.

My iPad Mini 2 is just over 5 years old and Apple continues crippling it and has stopped supporting it over 2 years ago.

In a world where we tend to burn through products that cost hundreds of $$$/€€€ on a regular bases (how many mobile devices/tablets/laptops have you had in the past 10 years?) I find it a bit perplexing that people demand support for products that have discontinued for over 10 years and even then did not offer full analog compatibility at the time.

ARC PRO supports all currently available track pieces (digital and otherwise) with the only mild exception being if you use a pit entry to go down to one lane, which would not allow analog compatibility in any case anyhow.

The fact that there is a solution at all to get these older pieces working is thanks to the great work and comradery  of the users on this forum and other places.

With the thousands of people out there using Scalextric products the chances that someone, somewhere will come up with some combination that was not originally thought of in the design phase is much better than your chances of winning the lottery.

I never quite understand the motivation of people in being overly critical of a manufacturer. 

Clear constructive comments and critiques are always welcome but making blanket statements such as "they never tell you" insensitive and to a degree disingenuous.

Andy P.

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What woodcote said... if you take a piece of paper and two distinctly different colors and use one color, say brown for Lane 1 and and another color, say blue for Lane 2 and draw your circuit you can tell when you have committed the crime of combine lanes.

Some track planners do this for you. I know Ultimate Racer does.

 

Andy P.

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be sure to read through this thread as there are many more modely users have added...

Andy P.

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Most of Scalextric's cars these days are inliners. Sidewinders you can sometimes spot because the spur (axle) gear is sometimes visible next to the wheel.

Or you can check some of the retailers as woodcote said...

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