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woodcote

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Hi sfisher8 - welcome to the forum!

 

Yes, you definitely need braid plates for those cars. They are the 'old' (pre-2019) My First / Micro Scalextric system and will need the older W1573 guide plate and braid set (usually sold in pairs). I have also seen these described as L8109 or ML14092 - they look identical to me.

 

The only Micro Scalextric braid plates that won't fit your cars are the new G8047 set of eight spare guide blades + screw. These are for the new (2019 onward) My First / Micro Scalextric cars and they attach to the cars quite differently.

 

I hope that helps!

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Should have black guides by 2008, but worth checking! The C7005 chips should still come with some black replacement guides for the older cars, just in case.

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

In theory, it would be possible to retro-fit ARC One into any slot car system - just use the lap sensing part of ARC One and use the regular powerbase for powering the track. The track power cables of the ARC One powerbase should not be connected to the track rails.

 

It is more difficult with Micro Scalextric and any other 1/64 scale system. The ARC sensors are an infrared beam broken by a black guide blade. The tiny 1/64 scale guide pin/flag is just not big enough to trigger the sensor. An alternative is to use a sensor that picks up the localised magnetic field of the cars' traction magnets - Hall effect sensors would be most reliable, but reed switches could work. This would need some modification to the circuitry - the Hall effect sensors require power and the output signal would probably need tweaking... This has been talked about by enthusiasts in theory, but no-one (as far as I know) has produced a working prototype.

 

ARC Air with with wireless controllers would be great, but then there is the issue of the power output - the standard is 15-ish volts and the voltage required for the old Micro Scalextric is 18 volts or 9 volts for the new 2019 system. Not impossible, but even more complex and means fiddling with the power circuits.

 

Will Scalextric produce an ARC product for the new 9 volt Micro Scalextric system? I don't think so. Will they produce some electronic accessories and apps? I am pretty confident they will do - over the next few years. If I was to make a guess, it would be very easy to produce a Spark Plug for Micro Scalextric. I already use a stand alone lap-counting app with Micro, see here: https://www.scalextric.com/uk-en/new-micro-system-sets

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Hi Dave - welcome to the forum!

 

What you have there is the 2008 C1232T American Champions set with a '69 Camaro and a Mustang 302 Boss. The set was only released in North America.

 

The set includes Scalextric Sport track, which will fit perfectly into your new Sunset Speedway set. The only piece of track you should not use is the the powerbase from your old set.

 

The cars in the old set will work, unmodified, in 'analogue mode' on your ARC Pro layout. There is a small switch to the left of the ARC Pro powerbase. Push the switch towards the track for traditional one-car-per-lane racing (no lane changing and pit stops on the powerbase straight). Push the switch away from the track for up-to-six-cars-on-two-lanes digital racing with lane-changing an the separate pit lane.

 

If you wanted to convert the Mustang and Camaro to digital, you will need to solder the C7005 Retro Fit Chip into the car between the pick-up and the motor (instructions are included with the chip). Alternatively, there are newer 'Digital Plug Ready' (DPR) versions of the Camaro and Mustang that will take the C8515 Easy-fit Digital Plug, which requires no soldering and is a 1 to 2 minute conversion process. The three cars in Sunset Speedwat set are all fitted with the C8515 digital plug.

 

I hope that helps!

 

There is also a quick intro to the ARC app here on the Scalextric website, with a link at the bottom of the article to a full guide to racing with the ARC Pro app: www.scalextric.com/uk-en/btcc-race-scalextric-arc

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Superman has been added to the single car range in the 2020 catalogue. Some retailers (for example, Jadlam Racing Models) have split cars from sets - I picked up the two Justice League set cars that way. There are three new road cars for 2020 - the Aston Martin DB5, Jaguar XF and Rasio C-20. All are set-only in the 2020 catalogue, but we'll have to wait and see if there are more individual cars in 2021. The six individually-packaged cars in the 2020 catalogue is already more than has been available from Micro Scalextric in the past 10-15 years. So good news!

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Hi Brian - Pendles have a few SSD chipped cars listed in their Slot.it section, but most are out of stock. Gaugemaster are the UK distributor and you could browse their list too. I imagine that any UK Slot.it retailer can order the chipped cars for you via Gaugemaster. It's probably the same in North America and Australia / New Zealand too - you would need to contact a retailer or the distributor.

The chipped cars do work out good value, but fitting the SP15B SSD chip into most Slot.it cars is really easy, requiring just two solder points on the motor. If you love your Slot.its and you run ARC Pro, it is something you'll need to learn to do :-)

 

I hope that helps.

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

I really like the Scalextric Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Ford Thunderbird. They are big and tough and perfect for digital racing. However, the Monte Carlo has a problem counting laps on the ARC Pro powerbase in digital mode. This is something Dr_C has looked at both theoretically and in practice.

The Monte Carlo counts laps perfectly in the analogue mode of ARC Pro - and also with ARC Air, ARC One and other Scalextric analogue lap counters. It is only the digital mode of ARC Pro which is a problem - and I do find that it counts laps reliably on Red, Green and Blue but does miss some laps on Yellow, Orange and White. Basically, the higher the ID number (the colours furthest to the right on the powerbase), the greater the risk of missing laps.

The two-step lap counting mechanism involves a black coloured guide breaking a horizontal sensor in the track (used in analogue mode and with ARC Air and One). In digital mode, the powerbase then needs to know what car ID has crossed the line. A second vertical sensor immediately searches for the car ID via the digital chip's LED. This second sensor is a set distance behind the first and there is a very short window of searching for the ID. In practice, Dr_C has found that the optimum performance for the second sensor is when the rear edge of the guide to LED distance is in a range between 6mm and 14mm (10mm plus or minus 4mm) - and the absolute maximum is 24mm.

I measured the gaps on both the Thunderbird and the Monte Carlo. The T-Bird is right on the money at 10.6mm. The Monte Carlo is 23.86mm, right on the limit - which explains the issues with lap counting.

 

The easiest fix I've come up with is to wrap some black PVC electrical tape around the guide so it trails back to 10.6mm in front of the LED - marked with the gold dot on the picture below...

 

 

The tape does add extra width to the guide and - if you will be permanently modifying the car to run exclusively on ARC Pro digital - you could sand down the guide a little on both sides to compensate. I haven't found problems on any of my Scalextric Sport track pieces (including Radius 1s), but the tape does clearly rub. If you have any track pieces that have been bent and the slot closed up at all, the wider guide is likely to get stuck and the slot must opened out again or you risk damaging the digital chip if you gun the motor to get past the blockage.

The first thing to do is to remove the braid plate. Then cut a long length of black PVC tape and attach it - one side at a time - to the guide blade, the bottom of the tape just above the slot for the braid plate and then stick the ends together at the trailing end. It is important the tape is wrapped tightly around the front of the blade...

 

 

Then trim the tape level with the bottom of the guide blade (or top when the car is up-side-down!) and cut at the back in line with the gold dot marking 10.6mm from the LED...

 

 

Then re-fit the braid plate, which will require looping it over the tape extension at the rear of the guide...

 

 

We are then ready to race and count laps!

 

There is another issue with the LED being so far back which the guide extension will not solve. This impacts on both lap counting and lane changing. The LED must be directly over the slot to trigger the lane changer and lap counting sensors - any sideways movement of the rear wheels (out of a corner, fishtailing on a straight etc) will move the LED off the centre line - and the further back the LED is positioned from the guide pivot, the further off the centre line the LED will be. Slot.it suggest a maximum distance of 35mm from the guide pivot to the LED and the Monte Carlo is 33.4mm, the T-Bird only 20.14mm.

What this means is there must be at least one half straight between the exit of a corner and either a lane changer, pit entry or the ARC Pro powerbase - otherwise LED and sensor will not line up. This is good practice for any digital track design and running any digital cars. A full straight is even better - especially if running cars without traction magnets. The Monte Carlo will be more susceptible to missing sensors than the T-Bird, so that is important for the drivers to remember.

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Hi roadracer - I have posted the how-to in the digital section, but it will be Monday before the pictures are approved and you can read it. I have also posted it on SlotRacer Online here: https://slotracer.online/community/showthread.php?tid=1015

Andy Player

woodcote

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Hi Ironhippie - welcome to the forum!

 

How to get to low-speed Calibration in the ARC app...

 

  1. Choose your race mode from the main screen
  2. Choose driver set-up
  3. Tap on the car you want to calibrate
  4. Tap on Calibrate Car
  5. Follow instructions on screen to set the low speed for app features such as fuel, tyre wear, weather, incidents etc.
  6. Return to the driver set-up screen and repeat 3-5 for the other car.

 

If you are looking to limit the speed for your 5-7 year old, you need to adjust the Max Power setting...

 

  1. Choose your race mode from the main screen
  2. Choose driver set-up
  3. Tap on the car you want to calibrate
  4. Tap on Max Power
  5. Default is 100% - I usually choose 75% for younger drivers. You can use the Custom option to input any value from 1 to 100 so you could gradually increase from 75 to 100% as the beginner drivers get better.
  6. Return to the driver set-up screen and repeat 3-5 for the other car.

 

There is an article on the Scalextric website about using the ARC app for racing with ARC Pro, plus a link at the bottom to a full guide to the app on SlotRacer Online. Although you are using ARC Air and not ARC pro, there is still some useful information about using the ARC app. The article is here: www.scalextric.com/uk-en/btcc-race-scalextric-arc

 

I hope that helps!

Andy Player

woodcote

1051 posts

Hi Mark. Left hand simply means the pit lane entry leaves the track to the left. It's the C7014 left hand pit lane you'll need.

Andy Player

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