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Dr_C

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Hi Hammertime,

Thanks for your patience on this one... looking at the design spec of the ARC PRO, and the sensor circuits in play I have concluded there are two ways forward.

 

1/ With some relatively simple additional hardware, an approach based on wiring sensors together will become possible. This solution will function with the Magic unofficial ARC app but not the Hornby official ARC app. This is the quickest and easiest route to getting four lane solutions functioning with the ARC PRO.

 

2/ I am also working on a more advanced four lane solution which adds compatibility with both the Hornby official ARC app and the Magic unofficial ARC app. To get this solution functioning requires some quite advanced firmware to be written and endurance tested. Also, this approach involves a lot more design effort... it will bring some added opportunities... e.g more advanced sensing of vehicles entering pit lanes etc.

 

I am working on both... clearly 1 will be ready first...

 

Hope this update helps...

 

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Dr_C

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Hi Zoopy, that is great news... so for some new ARC PRO powerbases the track power modifications are nolonger required. Great progress by Hornby in developing the performance and compatibility of the ARC PRO...

 

:) 

 

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Dr_C

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Wind forward another eight months and I find myself modifying another two curved lane changers... same method... with some new images...

 

https://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=190901&p=2260719

 

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Dr_C

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I cant speak for the reliability of the basic analog powerbases... but if I ever saw the kind of damage shown in the photo above I would contact customer care (as advised above ) and have to hand a clear description of the conditions under which the damage occured.

 

If upgrading, I would recommend either the ARC AIR (analog only) or ARC PRO (switchable between digital and analog). Both of these powerbases have far more advanced overload protection circuits than the above passive powerbase. In real time they monitor current levels flowing though the track and when the overload condition is triggered they shut down the track power. Both are great powerbases... and both come with wireless controllers and a free-to-download bluetooth app too.

 

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Dr_C

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This looks bad... did it genuinely happen while the powerbase was being used correctly?

It would be helpful to understand the precise set-up conditions which caused the failure... please...

For example, was the correct Scalextric power supply unit (PSU) being used and was it the version with the correct voltage rating for the country of use? was more than one powerbase in play? had the powerbase or wired controllers been modified in any way?

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Dr_C

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kThe project to demonstrate use of an ARC PRO powerbase in a four lane race configuration will be taking shape over the summer... for anyone who is interested I plan to describe progress at this link address...

https://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=190379&p=2254731

This not intended as a project to try at home... it would for sure invalidate the manufacturers warranty and unless carried out correctly could be unsafe...

Most of all I hope the project will demonstrate the amazing performance and clever design of the ARC PRO system... and potential options for future developments...

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Dr_C

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Yepp, i started my return to the hobby with an ARC ONE upgrade kit, then the ARC AIR then the ARC PRO - all three are great fun, and it gets even greater fun as you go... IMO. The ARC ONE brings a great added dimension to analog racing with an advanced race management app... I still enjoy mine and recently bought some new wired hand throttles as a bit of a further upgrade... enjoy the new set-up and... I hope you enjoy teaching soldering skills to your daughters as much as I have over the years with my children... enjoy :)

 

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Dr_C

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Just checking, did you buy the ARC ONE (analog with tablet race management app) or the ARC PRO (digital/analog modes, tablet race management app and wireless throttles)? If you bought the ARC ONE it is indeed a great analog powerbase but doesnt require digital chipped cars. 

If you bought the ARC PRO this opens up opportunities to race up to six cars... all of which need to be digitally chipped. Digital Plug Ready (DPR) cars are very easy to digitise. Non-DPR cars need some basic soldering skills and the purchase of the retrofit C7005 in-car decoder/module. If required, it is actually quite fun and rewarding to learn how to fit these... with lots of online help material to learn from...

Hope this helps,

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Dr_C

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Hey Hammerline, big thanks for your support for this project idea and your interest in wanting to build and test your own ARC based 4 lane system. I will share progress on this project either here or on slotforum.com but whichever site I use I will cross-reference with hyperlinks.

 

In terms of system development, I have the support of fellow slotracers in Scandinavia... and I have committed to share a first version for testing. I am working on this hardware/firmware solution at present. Later in the summer I hope to have upgrade parts designed. Perhaps that would be the time to bringyour soldering iron into play.

 

And just to add... the hardware/firmware requirements I am working on are:

1/ Additional power regular (5V) which is integral to the ARC PRO and which draws on the 15V dc input and which has its own overload protection circuits.

2/ A PIC16F1619 microcontroller which combines all the lane sensor signals and  re-times these signals to avoid data collisions or ambiguities.

 

Again, many thanks for your interest and please keep in touch, your 4 lane digital race evenings sound great :)

 

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Dr_C

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@gorp

It would be far easier to do the riko arc pro mod pinned at top of sf scaly digital forum, to make a true digital powerbase out of the arc pro.

Then use a pair of pitlanes to go from 2 to 4 lanes.

Did this long ago with the powerbase pro and found most people really wanted only 3 racing lanes,

which was a lot less expensive when adding track.

Interesting approach... but I guess it depends what solution is being sought... for anyone wanting a three or four lane digital track, and who is happy with a two lane start-finish chicane... the above is an innovative and practical approach. However, if you want a four lane start-finish with options for pit lanes to straddle the start-finish line... which is probably more of a club-type set-up rather than a small home setup... then a more advanced solution is needed... that is what I am looking into :)

 

So perhaps a case of horses for courses...?

 

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